Oppo Reno 11 Pro Review

When it comes to premium smartphones, there is plenty of choice these days in the sub-Rs. 40,000 segment. There are smartphones like Oppo’s Reno 10 Pro, which was purposefully designed to fit into this segment or budget, and then there are more premium smartphones that were launched in the sub-Rs. 50,000 segment, but have received price cuts over time or are frequently available at a much lower price tag. This would include devices like the Nothing Phone 2 and the like, which were launched at a higher price tag, but are now available below Rs. 40,000. And these are specifically the smartphones Oppo’s newest contender in the sub-Rs. 40,000 segment, called the Reno 11 Pro, should be worried about.

With a brand-new design, improved cameras and an upgraded processor, does Oppo’s Reno 11 Pro stand a chance in the cutthroat premium segment in 2024, which consists mainly of smartphones launched in 2023? I’ve used Oppo’s latest Reno smartphone, and here’s what I think.

Oppo Reno 11 Pro Review: Price in India

The new Reno 11 Pro is priced similar to last year’s model, at Rs. 39,999. Below it sits the Reno 11, which is priced from Rs. 29,999. Oppo hasn’t brought the Reno 11 Pro (from China) to India, which is equipped with a Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 processor this year. So, it’s unclear whether last year’s Reno 10 Pro+ will see a replacement or whether we should be expecting some Find X series action later this year to make up for Oppo’s gaping void in its premium segment.

The phone is available in two finishes, Pearl White and Rock Grey. In the box, Oppo provides a USB Type-C to Type-A charging cable, an 80W charger and a transparent TPU case.

Oppo Reno 11 Pro Review: Design

Just like the model it replaces, the Oppo Reno 11 Pro uses a mix of polycarbonate and glass to achieve this new Pearl White 3D-etched finish, which looks and feels a lot like marble. The 3D curved glass around the back has a unique texture, which looks very premium, along with the polished camera island, which protrudes quite a bit from the flat rear surface.

The Oppo Reno 11 Pro’s 3D-etched rear panel sure looks and feels premium

The marble-like finish feels nice to touch and does a fine job of resisting dust and fingerprints, keeping the rear panel clean and smudge-free at all times. I also like the flat textured insert at the top edge of the device, which also houses the visible secondary mic and infrared port.

There’s a 3D curved display glass on the front with an AMOLED panel which also curves into the sides by a bit. It has a thin bezel and curved edges on the left and right sides that make the borders appear thinner than they actually are.

Using a polycarbonate frame also helps reduce the weight of this smartphone. Weighing in at just 181 grams, the phone is quite slim, with a thickness of just 7.66mm (if you don’t include the camera bump). This thin and light combination, along with its premium marble-like glass back, the 3D curved sides of the rear panel and the display, all lend this smartphone a very luxurious hand feel.

The common downside of a matte or soft finish is the lack of grip, and this phone is no different. The device can get really slippery, so it’s advisable to attach the packaged soft TPU case to the box to avoid any damage from accidental drops.

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The Oppo Reno 11 Pro has an IR port on its top edge which is set in a matching plastic insert

 

The phone still lacks an official IP rating but seems to have the necessary seals in place around the SIM card tray. This is a bit disappointing, keeping its price in mind and the fact that other premium devices like the Samsung Galaxy A54 5G offer a proper IP67 rating. Even Xiaomi’s upcoming Redmi Note 13 Pro+ 5G also has a proper IP68 rating and is priced lower. While an IP rating does not guarantee that the manufacturer will service your drenched device free of cost (it all depends on the company’s terms and conditions), it does bring some peace of mind that your device can survive a bit of rain or even a drop in a pool, depending on its certified IP rating.

Oppo Reno 11 Pro Review: Specifications and software

Unlike last year’s model, Oppo has switched to MediaTek silicon for its Reno 11 Pro. The phone has a MediaTek Dimensity 8200 SoC, which is built using the 4nm fabrication process and is offered with 12GB of LPDDR5X RAM and 256GB of UFS 3.1 storage. There’s no room for memory expansion, but you do get space for two nano SIM cards with dual 5G standby.

The phone has a 6.7-inch AMOLED panel with a 120Hz dynamic refresh rate and a full-HD+ resolution laid out in a tallish 20:9 aspect ratio. There is an in-display fingerprint reader, and I found its performance to be reliable during the review period. Connectivity standards include Wi-Fi 6, Bluetooth 5.4, NFC, an IR blaster and support for the usual global positioning systems.

Given its slim design, the phone still manages to pack in a 4,600mAh battery. It cannot be charged wirelessly, but Oppo does offer an 80W wired charger in the box.

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The Oppo Reno 11 Pro has a single bottom-firing speaker

 

The Reno 11 Pro runs Oppo’s freshest serving of Android 14 in the form of ColorOS 14. While it appears pretty much the same as the previous version of this software. There are a few minor changes that users who are familiar with the software will notice in some places.

There is a very iOS-like global search bar that is now located just above the docked icons at the bottom of the home screen. It’s still not as useful as Google’s search (which can find contacts, chats and more) as it can only find apps installed on the phone or in Oppo’s App Market. Another visible change is the separators for each item in the Settings menu.

Among the new software features, Oppo has introduced a handy new one called File Dock. It functions in a manner that is very similar to the OnePlus Open’s Recent Folder (which is also available in the Smart Sidebar), letting you drag and drop items from a select number of supported apps by first selecting an item and then long-pressing it to automatically summon the File Dock drawer.

Once dragged into the File Dock, the item can be accessed when needed and then dragged into any supported app. The feature works as expected and I could drag all sorts of images and files between apps, but not all apps will support this gesture.

File Dock will need the Smart Sidebar feature to be activated first and also works well across devices if you happen to have another ColorOS 14-powered smartphone or tablet, making the files magically appear on other devices, provided you have logged into it using the same Oppo account.

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File Dock is a handy new feature and works well across supported apps

 

Another cool feature that works with File Dock is Smart Touch, which basically uses the three-finger swipe-down screenshot gesture. Once in screenshot mode, one has to tap on the ‘Extract content’ button, and then the system basically scans the screenshot for content, which can then be pasted onto File Dock for future use in other apps.

Smart Image Matting is yet another feature which can pick up cutouts of people or objects from the images in the Photos app that can then be pasted into File Dock (or elsewhere) for future use.

While it’s nice to see some handy new features in ColorOS 14, I was a bit disappointed by the number of preinstalled apps. While most of these can be uninstalled, FinShell Pay cannot, and the same applies to a number of native apps from Oppo. To make things worse there are several app doubles present in the app drawer, like two messaging apps (Messages + Messages), two file managers (Files + My Files), and two web browsers (Internet + Chrome), which can get overwhelming to those unfamiliar with so much bloatware.

Oppo Reno 11 Pro Review: Performance

Bloatware aside, general software performance on the Oppo Reno 11 Pro is quite good. Multitasking is not a problem, and apps remain in memory for a while as well. As for benchmarks, the phone did perform a lot better than its predecessor which was powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 778G SoC.

The phone managed a commendable score of 9,26,665 points in AnTuTu, along with 1,093 and 3,406 points in Geekbench’s single and multi-core tests, respectively. Graphics performance was also quite good, but Oppo seems to cap it at 60fps for all of the three GFXBench test suites we tried out, which included T-Rex, Manhattan 3.1 and Car Chase.

Given the noticeable performance improvements over the previous model, I expected the most demanding 3D games to work just fine without any hiccups, even at high graphics settings, which was a problem with the previous model.

Trying out Call of Duty: Mobile (CODM), the phone managed smooth and lag-free gameplay with graphics set to Very High and frame rate set to Very High, but with most effects turned off. Turning on all effects resulted in random instances of lag, with the phone struggling to keep up at times. Touch sampling rate was just about fine even when used with Oppo’s Championship gaming mode, so this isn’t the ideal device for playing intensive FPS games. It was also possible to play CODM at Ultra frame rate settings, but it’s limited to 90 fps.

Despite the single speaker, I found the audio quality to be sufficiently loud but not immersive or as detailed, especially when playing games. It’s a far cry from the stereo speaker setup available on most smartphones at this price point and often had me reaching from my TWS earphones when catching a show or watching a movie.

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The Oppo Reno 11 Pro’s curved edge display isn’t all that distracting when viewing content and makes its bezel appear thinner

 

The curved edge display supports HDR10+ when streaming video, and the same appeared as expected when watching shows on Prime Video and Netflix. While it showcases vivid colours at default settings it can be tweaked to show more natural colour tones. While it performed well indoors, outdoor performance was also pretty good with text and colours properly legible in direct sunlight.

The phone offers a maximum refresh screen refresh rate of 120Hz and Oppo claims that it’s dynamic as well. In our testing, the phone switches between 60Hz, 90Hz and 120Hz when needed but often stays at 90Hz when browsing through the software interface or when using apps. In short, the display rarely touches the 120Hz refresh rate when using the Auto-select screen refresh rate mode (which is its default setting). This is more so since gaming apps are also mostly capped at 60Hz or 90Hz. Setting the display to the High screen refresh rate mode forces the display (and the underlying MEMC system) to stick to 120Hz when browsing through the phone’s interface, but it automatically drops to 90Hz when using any app, making the 120Hz refresh rate a bit of a gimmick.

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The Oppo Reno 11 Pro’s rear camera setup is similar to last year’s model

 

In our standard video loop battery test, the Oppo Reno 11 Pro managed an impressive 21 hours and 55 minutes on a single charge. However, in real-world usage, it usually lasted me a day with heavy use (about 7-8 hours of screen time) and a little over a day with casual use. This means that it’s more of a one-day smartphone, which also means that it’s not ideal for power users.

Thankfully, charging the smartphone using its 80W charger is pretty quick. It manages a 58 percent charge in just 15 minutes and completes the charge in just 32 minutes. Wireless charging is turning out to be an emerging feature in this segment, with phones like the Nothing Phone 2 and Google’s Pixel 7a offering the same. The Oppo Reno 11 Pro, like last year’s model, lacks this feature.

Oppo Reno 11 Pro Review: Cameras

Oppo’s cameras remain mostly unchanged compared to last year’s Oppo Reno 10 Pro. There’s the same Sony IMX890 50-megapixel primary camera (OIS enabled), a 32-megapixel (Sony IMX709) telephoto camera and an 8-megapixel ultra-wide-angle camera (Sony IMX355). Selfies are handled by the same 32-megapixel camera as last year’s model, which is embedded into the display and offers autofocus.

What Oppo claims has changed is the way it processes these images, stating that its new HyperTone Imaging Engine delivers better portrait photos (with improved colour, depth and detail) compared to last year’s model.

Photos from the primary camera pack good detail but show clipped highlights in contrasted settings (Tap images to expand)

 

The primary camera shoots vibrant photos with good detail and mostly accurate colour reproduction. While the details in the shadows are quite good, I found areas with a lot of clipped highlights when the settings had contrasted lighting, even in daylight. In low light or street-lit scenes, the camera manages to hold it all together, producing natural colours and bright photos with good dynamic range.

Photos from the telephoto camera (in Photo mode) could have been a lot sharper (and better exposed) (Tap images to expand)

 

Photos from the 2X telephoto camera definitely pack less detail compared to the primary. The lack of OIS can be felt here and results in flattened textures and reduced detail. The digitally cropped 5X samples lack detail with textures appearing like a painting. While daylight photos come out just fine with average detail, this camera needs plenty of light to deliver good results, so its low-light performance isn’t great in general.

Switching from Photo mode to Portrait mode results in dramatically better photos (In the image L-R: Shilpi Oberoi, Sujith Gopinath, Ankita Garg) (Tap image to expand)

 

Switch to Portrait mode, and things improve drastically. Oppo’s HyperTone Imaging Engine ensures that these photos have good separation and come out quite detailed as well. Whether I was shooting in black and white or colour, these photos surely come out well, provided you stick to the native focal length (1X or 2X).

I honestly wished that all of this enhanced processing was also applied in the regular Photo mode when using the telephoto camera. However, in low light, the results aren’t all that great with faces that lack texture and detail and also appear quite flat. In short, the telephoto camera is best reserved for daylight shooting.

Something else that I noticed is that typical poses and hairdos posed no challenge for the Portrait mode’s edge detection. However, I did find several flaws with the Portrait mode’s edge detection when tackling slightly complicated hairdos, where the camera often gave my subjects a haircut.

Selfies from the front-facing camera have good detail, but the edge-detection was not always accurate (Tap image to expand)

 

Low-light selfies lacked detail and were not too bright either (Tap image to expand)

 

Since the selfie camera has a similar sensor as the telephoto, the results too were similar. And even here, it did not take much effort for the aggressive edge detection to fumble.

The ultra-wide camera is just average in terms of overall image quality, managing passable photos in daylight and noisy photos in low light. There’s also a noticeably different colour tone (warmer) compared to the primary and telephoto cameras and also plenty of purple fringing along and barrel distortion. The phone lacks a macro camera or even a macro mode, but it is possible to shoot close-ups from as close as 10 centimetres.

As for video, the selfie camera finally gets a 4K 30fps video recording mode. The rear camera only offers 4K 30fps video recording (no 4K60 fps), and its quality is quite average. Stabilisation isn’t great overall, and videos appear a bit contrasted like a filter has been applied to them. The frame rate is also quite shaky in general. Low light video appears very noisy and also lacks basic stabilisation, the same applies to selfie videos. Full-HD video also appears quite grainy and noisy and lacks detail and texture in low light.

Oppo Reno 11 Pro Review: Verdict

The Oppo Reno 11 Pro is essentially the same phone as last year’s Reno 10 Pro with subtle improvements. Its design and texture treatment have changed, but apart from the notable performance and battery life improvements, there’s really no need to upgrade to the new model if you are already using the Reno 10 Pro. While camera performance has improved (primarily in Portrait mode), it’s once again no reason worth upgrading to as these are mainly qualitative upgrades and not exactly feature additions.

Oppo continues to ignore the need for an official IP rating, avoiding something as basic as a stereo speaker setup while maintaining its high price, which did not work well last year and appears to meet a similar fate this year as well.

The Oppo Reno 11 Pro is a well-built smartphone, but it will appeal to a very specific set of buyers as it does not offer good value. Making things worse for the Oppo Reno 11 Pro is the everchanging competition.

We have devices like the Nothing Phone 2 (Review), which offers premium features like an official IP54 rating for dust and water resistance, wireless charging, a unique stand-out design (Glyphy notifications) and a powerful processor at Rs. 39,999.

Then there’s the iQoo Neo 7 Pro (Review), which from Rs. 32,999 may not offer a camera setup that’s as flexible as the Reno 11 Pro’s but definitely offers a very capable primary camera and rock-solid performance along with an IP54 rating and faster 120W charging.

If you are willing to spend a bit more, there’s also the Google Pixel 7a (Review), which offers incredible value at Rs. 43,999. It will be the first to get software updates (sans any bloatware) and offers really good imaging chops, along with an IP67 rating and wireless charging.


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It’s time to hang up on the old telecoms rulebook

Joakim Reiter | via Vodafone

Around 120 years ago, Guglielmo Marconi planted the seeds of a communications revolution, sending the first message via a wireless link over open water. “Are you ready? Can you hear me?”, he said. Now, the telecommunications industry in Europe needs policymakers to heed that call, to realize the vision set by its 19th-century pioneers.

Next-generation telecommunications are catalyzing a transformation on par with the industrial revolution. Mobile networks are becoming programmable platforms — supercomputers that will fundamentally underpin European industrial productivity, growth and competitiveness. Combined with cloud, AI and the internet of things, the era of industrial internet will transform our economy and way of life, bringing smarter cities, energy grids and health care, as well as autonomous transport systems, factories and more to the real world.

5G is already connecting smarter, autonomous factory technologies | via Vodafone

Europe should be at the center of this revolution, just as it was in the early days of modern communications.

Next-generation telecommunications are catalyzing a transformation on par with the industrial revolution.

Even without looking at future applications, the benefits of a healthy telecoms industry for society are clear to see. Mobile technologies and services generated 5 percent of global GDP, equivalent to €4.3 trillion, in 2021. More than five billion people around the world are connected to mobile services — more people today have access to mobile communications than they do to safely-managed sanitation services. And with the combination of satellite solutions, the prospect of ensuring every person on the planet is connected may soon be within reach.

Satellite solutions, combined with mobile communications, could eliminate coverage gaps | via Vodafone

In our recent past, when COVID-19 spread across the world and societies went into lockdown, connectivity became critical for people to work from home, and for enabling schools and hospitals to offer services online.  And with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, when millions were forced to flee the safety of their homes, European network operators provided heavily discounted roaming and calling to ensure refugees stayed connected with loved ones.

A perfect storm of rising investment costs, inflationary pressures, interest rate hikes and intensifying competition from adjacent industries is bearing down on telecoms businesses across Europe.

These are all outcomes and opportunities, depending on the continuous investment of telecoms’ private companies.

And yet, a perfect storm of rising investment costs, inflationary pressures, interest rate hikes and intensifying competition from adjacent industries is bearing down on telecoms businesses across Europe. The war on our continent triggered a 15-fold increase in wholesale energy prices and rapid inflation. EU telecoms operators have been under pressure ever since to keep consumer prices low during a cost-of-living crisis, while confronting rapidly growing operational costs as a result. At the same time, operators also face the threat of billions of euros of extra, unforeseen costs as governments change their operating requirements in light of growing geopolitical concerns.

Telecoms operators may be resilient. But they are not invincible.

The odds are dangerously stacked against the long-term sustainability of our industry and, as a result, Europe’s own digital ambitions. Telecoms operators may be resilient. But they are not invincible.

The signs of Europe’s decline are obvious for those willing to take a closer look. European countries are lagging behind in 5G mobile connectivity, while other parts of the world — including Thailand, India and the Philippines — race ahead. Independent research by OpenSignal shows that mobile users in South Korea have an active 5G connection three times more often than those in Germany, and more than 10 times their counterparts in Belgium.

Europe needs a joined-up regulatory, policy and investment approach that restores the failing investment climate and puts the telecoms sector back to stable footing.

Average 5G connectivity in Brazil is more than three times faster than in Czechia or Poland. A recent report from the European Commission — State of the Digital Decade (europa.eu) shows just how far Europe needs to go to reach the EU’s connectivity targets for 2030.

To arrest this decline, and successfully meet EU’s digital ambitions, something has got to give. Europe needs a joined-up regulatory, policy and investment approach that restores the failing investment climate and puts the telecoms sector back to stable footing.

Competition, innovation and efficient investment are the driving forces for the telecoms sector today. It’s time to unleash these powers — not blindly perpetuate old rules. We agree with Commissioner Breton’s recent assessment: Europe needs to redefine the DNA of its telecoms regulation. It needs a new rulebook that encourages innovation and investment, and embraces the logic of a true single market. It must reduce barriers to growth and scale in the sector and ensure spectrum — the lifeblood of our industry — is managed more efficiently. And it must find faster, futureproofed ways to level the playing field for all business operating in the wider digital sector.  

But Europe is already behind, and we are running out of time. It is critical that the EU finds a balance between urgent, short-term measures and longer-term reforms. It cannot wait until 2025 to implement change.

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When Marconi sent that message back in 1897, the answer to his question was, “loud and clear”. As Europe’s telecoms ministers convene this month in León, Spain, their message must be loud and clear too. European citizens and businesses deserve better communications. They deserve a telecoms rulebook that ensures networks can deliver the next revolution in digital connectivity and services.



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Keeping the digital ecosystem strong

Wassim Chourbaji, Senior Vice President, Government Affairs & Public Policy EMEA at Qualcomm

Competitive markets and strong partnerships have always encouraged companies to innovate. Policies promoting such an environment allow for more inventions and creations within national, regional and international markets.

The EU leads the world in understanding the broad, interlinked forces driving technology innovation in the digital sector. The approval and enforcement of the Digital Markets Act (DMA) exemplify this leadership and are critical to preserving an open digital ecosystem.

The development of communications network infrastructure is another important area that can spur innovation. The EU has recognized the need to incentivize investment in digital infrastructure through ‘virtuous circles’ to bring reliable and secure connectivity. The physical network sits at the core of the digital ecosystem, but is also at the heart of our economies and societies.

Moreover, the EU has focused on the strategic value of semiconductors as engines of the digital transition that foster Europe’s competitiveness. The EU Chips Act has highlighted the need for a geo-diversified production and coordinated strategy amongst countries to balance global dynamics, security needs and supply priorities.

Fostering talent

In addition to the regulatory environment, it is important to nurture the human ingenuity that drives technology by strengthening partnerships that bring people and companies together.

Successful partnerships that lead to cutting-edge innovations are built on the individual human connections that spark new ideas. Talent is the most valuable resource for today’s knowledge-based economy. Promoting participation in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) disciplines to create the skilled workforce necessary for the global digital economy is essential. Qualcomm collaborates with community stakeholders on several programs across Europe that reach and inspire students from all backgrounds.

Furthermore, local innovation hubs have a paramount role in attracting, retaining and developing talent. With this in mind, Qualcomm established a 5G/6G R&D centre in Lannion, France, and an Artificial Intelligence (AI) R&D lab in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, doing fundamental research to fuel the connected intelligent edge with innovation.

Successful partnerships that lead to cutting-edge innovations are built on the individual human connections that spark new ideas.

Transforming through partnerships

Partnerships to develop and apply advanced technologies are decisive in unlocking access to future innovations and use cases, such as leveraging the metaverse for industrial and learning applications. Europe is an epicenter of technology R&D leadership — and our labs in Austria, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, the Netherlands and Spain are integral to our ability to engage in such partnerships.

From operators to automotive and industrial players, Qualcomm’s partnerships with European companies are good examples of how shared digital value can be created across an expanding range of verticals – by combining complementary technologies and expertise.

The automotive sector is a prime example. Digital transformation is a priority for automakers as vehicles become connected computers on wheels. Qualcomm’s digital chassis high-performance solutions empower automakers to add a full suite of technology to create software-defined intelligent vehicles that are highly customizable and upgradeable. This flexibility enables the adoption of a wider array of powerful automotive platforms, while allowing automakers to keep the relation with their customers and shape the in-vehicle digital experience.

Europe is an epicenter of technology R&D leadership — and our labs in Austria, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, the Netherlands and Spain are integral to our ability to engage in partnerships.

Protecting innovative ideas

As companies like Qualcomm drive cycles of innovation and creativity, it is important to have a strong intellectual property regime that protects the ideas that emerge. One key area that relies on such protections are communications standards like 5G. Standards are the foundation of the digital ecosystem. They also are crucial to competition, helping new entrants compete with existing players.

Today’s 5G standard is a direct descendant of a European initiative back in the 1980s that pushed for a single mobile standard to enable the single market. Europe’s strong patent rights were critical to its early leadership in mobile standards. These rights have given innovative companies the necessary incentives to invest in research and development and to contribute their intellectual property (IP) to the standards. Without these incentives, innovation within the ecosystem would stagnate.

This year, the European Commission will tackle files that will impact standards development – including the IP that fuels the necessary ongoing innovation. It is our hope that their importance to the digital ecosystem continues to be championed.

Qualcomm is a partner to Europe in achieving its digital transformation through talent development, transformative partnerships, and continuous innovation.

Building a future vision

All stakeholders have a role to play in incentivizing a vibrant digital ecosystem. By keeping a holistic view of all aspects that support a healthy digital ecosystem, Europe is bound for success.

This success can be further bolstered by the joint EU-US continuous dialogue. We hope the Trade and Technology Council (TTC) will be a vehicle for the EU-US cooperation to address new and emerging global tech and trade challenges. The TTC could serve as a focal point to increase trust and understanding to enable innovation, encourage investments and foster competition. Global leadership can only be achieved through policy cooperation and market-led approaches.

Qualcomm is a partner to Europe in achieving its digital transformation through talent development, transformative partnerships, and continuous innovation. Our connected future depends on it.



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